Hydraulic clutch problem - The BangShift.com ForumsThrowout bearing - Jeep Wrangler Forum Expensive little set up but I wouldn't have it any other way. I used a Tilton bearing and a early 60's Chevy pickup master. The clutch will have a "throwout lever" or "clutch fork" that engages and disengages the clutch. Translated, one great clutch for an amazing motor! Hydraulic Clutch Smarties Needed - Pro-Touring.com Hi, I have this same problem posted in the emergency room, but since I'm desperate I want to get a little more coverage in this forum. I don't ever recall working on a throw out bearing actuator arm that has an adjustable pivot. 2005-2010 Mustang GT Exedy Mach 350 Stage 1 Clutch w ... 2005 WRX. Each of these failure modes has different causes, and how it failed can be a big help in figuring out how to fix it. I'm right at 3/8". Put it back to the 15in pounds of vacuum. Do that 5 more times. When the clutch pedal is depressed, the throw-out bearing moves toward the flywheel, pushing in the pressure plate's release fingers and moving the pressure plate fingers or levers against pressure plate spring force. Why does my throwout bearing spin constantly? - 1990 to ...How does the clutch engage, push or pull? | FordSix ... I don't know what AA specifies with their kit, seems you would want to use the V6 (GM) bearing, not a special AA bearing. Clois Harlan _____ ok there is a way to do this. I put the tranny back on and installed the shifter but it still feels a little loose, even when engaged. #2. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 13 of 13 Posts . Apr 14, 2004. Yeah, two days before I want to leave to Torrey . * Shipping. The throw-out bearing engages the pressure plate in the same manner when using the clutch to select forward and reverse gears. I had a Lakewood bellhousing, aluminum flywheel and the McCleod twin disc street clutch. The car has a 428 SCJ with a Tremec 5 speed transmission. movement out of the throw out bearing. The tranny shifts fine while not running but as soon as i start the car it no longer shifts. C3 Hydraulic Clutch [PICS] - DigitalCorvettes.com Tick performance says it should be .125-.200. As far as hydraulic, you can either go directly with a hyro throwout bearing, eliminating the fork all together, or mount an external slave to manually actuate the fork. The throwout bearing constantly chirped (squeak-squeak-squeak) with the clutch engaged (pedal all the way up) if the car was in neutral. - I need some assistance here, Im having clutch slippage issues I have a Howe Hydraulic throwout bearing #82870 and am utilizing a Centerforce Chevy pressure plate, mated to my Chevy 350 and Jerico 4 speed. If you do it perfectly, then, no, you put no wear on the clutch, throwout bearing, or synchros. Hydraulic Clutches & Throwout bearings - Vintage Mustang On the average, a throw-out bearing replacement cost should be around $30-$100. Hot Rods - hydraulic throwout bearing | The H.A.M.B. Even the pressure plate and throwout bearing were different. The Hydraulic release bearings typically work like a mini hydraulic brake system. After you have mated the engine and trans you have to push the top of the clutch fork towards the rear of the car to engage the throwout bearing into the pressure plate. The clutch is engaging and disengaging fine. 2 the throwout bearing failing. I used a Tilton bearing and a early 60's Chevy pickup master. Do not use the firewall adjuster to customize the pedal height or adjust where in the pedal travel the clutch engages or disengages. Air is compressible and prevents the full movement of the slave cylinder to release the clutch. It may feel stiff when you press down on it. I installed the Mcleod 1400 series slip on throwout bearing, and for the first couple of clutch pedal pushes, I would just barely get the clutch to disengage near the end of pedal stroke. Mike Forte has the parts you need for the transmission slave. It will only retract to the point where no force is being applied to the clutch pressure plate. Part number for the universal kit is 78125HDL, or you can replace the bearing only itself with the wider face bearing part number 78017L on any other RAM hydraulic bearing unit. In my world, the throw out bearing (TOB) is just the bearing not the actuator and there's nothing hydraulic about it. The release bearing face is rounded. Hi, I'm hoping you have ideas on why I'm having a problem with my hydraulic throwout bearing. Based on the info you provided I would say there is an issue with the throw out bearing. (SBC, Centerforce dual friction, Tremec TKO, Mcleod PN1400). I ignored it for a year, then replaced it as the sound got worse and worse to the point where I could often hear it with the car in gear while driving around. McLeod calls their unit a hydraulic throw out bearing which is a bit of a misnomer. Some times it engaged/disengaged fairly out the way it should be, some times very close to the handlebar. 1990 SAE handbook 4:36.106. I don't have it set up or installed yet. It's the actuator. Hi all, I have just spent the last 3 days in my garage changing my clutch flywheel and throwout bearing. The "bearing" side of the throwout bearing just free spins while in contact with them. Used GM synchromesh. One of the major issues it has is the amount of labor to fix it since the replacement process required that the entire transmission be removed before the throw out bearing replaced. The goal of adjusting the clutch cable is to put enough tension on it to keep the throwout bearing in light contact with the clutch diaphragm fingers, ensuring both proper clutch operation and long clutch life. This could be the slave cylinder but it could also be the throw out bearing, or it could be a large hydraulic system issue. I do not use the clutch to hold a vehicle on a hill. Further issues can be even more costly. The Tilton Hydraulic Throwout actually takes the place of the stock front bearing retainer (they have almost every application) just uses a #4 line from a floor mounted clutch pedal with an integral master cylinder. Crystal Grey Metallic. I have a Howe racing thowout bearing and compared it to the stock GM and it is the same size. It utilizes a wider bearing face and 45 degree line fittings that angle the lines back away from the clutch fingers and cover. I have a Small block chevy Tremec TKO (original TKO not 500 or 600), Pro5.0 Shifter, Mcleod hydraulic throwout bearing, Centerforce dual friction clutch. It would never work right with any of the cable parts in there. Release the pedal at the floor by sliding your foot off the side so the pedal come up quickly. There is a safe extension range for the hydraulic throw out bearing. I was not allowing enough travel for the piston in my master cylinder. Avoid a hydraulic throw-out bearing setup. Hi, I'm hoping you have ideas on why I'm having a problem with my hydraulic throwout bearing. I replaced the bearing 4 months ago. If the problem is with the throw out bearing, the noise should be observed when using the clutch at any vehicle speed with the motor running, even when the vehicle is stopped and . Both bearing and master cyl. Replace your hydraulic throwout bearing with this great replacement part from McLeod Racing. It has the five-speed manual transmission and hydraulic clutch. Symptoms of a Bad Throwout Bearing. - when the engine was running the release bearing started to wobble when touching the diaphragm springs > which was too much for the seal in the hydraulic throwout bearing and it started to leak - clutch did not work - you guess, when I switched the engine off > everything was back to normal So check if engine on / off makes a difference. You should hear/feel a click when it engages. If this happens, you must get your vehicle looked at and fixed as soon as possible. Not as bad as the old cragar unilug! Carrier holding roller bearings had separated, roller bearings lying lose in bottom of cover. i am only getting about 3/8 in. This is a direct replacement and swap from the factory throwout bearing, also known as a concentric slave cylinder (CSC). Clutch wont engage. It's a good thing to know HOW to do, in the off chance you lose your clutch, so . The distance from the top of the pressure plate teeth to the face of the bell housing is 3.835. 3. I made sure that I set up my throw out bearing correctly according to the instructions, measuring difference between the "A" and "B" distances Mcleod street clutch has about 50 miles on it and is installed with brand new ford racing billet flywheel. Length should be 8.657" (219.89 mm) nominal, and not greater than 8.71" (221.23 mm). First Harley dealer said would have to order bearing, second said had lot in stock. When you press the clutch, your foot counters the diaphragm spring which presses the friction disc to the flywheel. When you push on the clutch pedal, the clutch release or throwout bearing is pushed forward towards the flywheel (front of the car). Replace transmission bearing retainer cap if length is greater than 8.71" (219.89 mm). I went with Tilton components and they were absolutely trouble-free and easier to set up than I had thought. My problem is it doesnt go into gear. The other reason is effort to engage the clutch via your foot. If the LUK clutch kit came with the correct T/O bearing for V6 it should work; it did for me anyway. My clutch will not engage as a result, the measurements I just took show that the throwout bearing fully closed is preloading the fingers on my clutch about .20 or around 3/16ths which is enough to release the clutch engagement ever so slightly. that is impressive for a ford. Release Yoke Worn fingers can With the information given, it doesn't sound to me as though it's the throw out bearing. A hydraulic clutch always self adjust for wear, thus, they do not start to engage themselves. Then return back to the suction pump on the master cylinder. The factory part can become worn over time and leak or not engage properly due to years of use and wear. I guessed at a leak, and sure enough, there was a small puddle . As I mentioned this car would not engage in gear. Remember that the hydraulic cylinder does not ENGAGE the clutch, it DISENGAGES it from the flywheel. says to measure from the outer bell to the pressure plate fingers = X. stroke. This will heat up and wear out a clutch. Air may prevent hydraulic clutch from releasing. Throw out bearing is not coming out and pedal is too stiff. you can also use a hydraulic throw out bearing,then you only have the master cylinder and a long hose to deal with,no slave cylinder or brackets. Answer (1 of 2): It's not the clutch itself that's hydraulic or mechanical. You need to know that a throw-out bearing itself is relatively not expensive. A clutch that doesn't engage fully, or slips under heavy load, is the normal failure mode of a worn out friction disc of pressure plate that has lost its tension. Q I own a 2002 Chevy Cavalier with 74,000 miles on it. It's common for the hydraulic bearing to be designed to use either a 3/4" or 7/8" bore master based on the expected peddel ratio and needed operating pressure. Too little gap can cause the bearing to over-travel and collide with the snap ring, or cause slippage as the clutch wears and the fingers move back, making contact with the bearing. It's common for the hydraulic bearing to be designed to use either a 3/4" or 7/8" bore master based on the expected peddel ratio and needed operating pressure. I then tried to depress the clutch put into gear and it just wont go. Lightly engaging the clutch waiting for a light or some such. Hi, has anyone successfully installed a hydraulic clutch system in a 72 mustang? Replace transmission bearing retainer cap if length is greater than 8.71" (219.89 mm). Until, of course, you depress the clutch pedal. • Incorrect throwout bearing (too long or too short) • Clutch assembly contaminated with grease or oil • Clutch assembly not fully seated due to improper break-in procedure • Flywheel not properly resurfaced—clutch disc is glazed • Wrong clutch assembly for the vehicle and/or application (street, drag racing, etc.) Any info you have is great as my hands are greasy as we speak. Looking for ideas before I pull the transmission again to check for damage to throw out bearing. 2002 ver 7 EJ207 WRX. Clearly, therefore, the symptoms of a bad throwout bearing would be observable when the clutch pedal is operated. require a 3/4 in. This prevents the bearing from pumping itself out to far. These high-quality, bolt-on hydraulic throwout bearings are extremely durable and are packaged with high-pressure stainless steel braided lines and premium elbow swivel fittings, making their install much easier. With the hydraulic master and slave cylinders it is hard to feel their action. Here is a guide that will help with this this: Transmission Bearing Retainer Cap A worn/rough bearing retainer cap may cause the clutch brake to wear prematurely. Dialed in bellhousing to 0.005" This is the second time I have . LUK brand clutch 05-065 (the whole kit), when that throwout bearing (from the kit) went bad (less than 500 miles)I replaced with the National 614093 Clutch Release Bearing Assembly(lasted about 1000-1200 miles), the shifting is just fine except for the noise like a banshee being raped when I press the clutch pedal ("fully" disengaged), I do not ride the clutch pedal at stop lights and I have . Length should be 8.657" (219.89 mm) nominal, and not greater than 8.71" (221.23 mm). As we saw in the above section, the throwout bearing works by applying pressure on the diaphragm spring to disconnect the engine from the gear mechanism, when the clutch pedal is depressed. 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